Hi so I have heard like many rumors that many kids go to colloge fore

Hi so I have heard like many rumors that many kids go to colloge fore jus 2 years and staight med school in nyc

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6-year BS/MD combined programs NYC New York 2 years undergrad direct medical school

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BS/MD programs NYC New York City 6 year 7 year combined programs list 2025

You heard right! Here's the full breakdown:

BS/MD Combined Programs - The "Skip Most of College" Path to Med School

What Is It?

These are combined degree programs where a high school senior applies to both undergrad AND medical school at the same time. If accepted, you're guaranteed a medical school seat from day one. No scrambling for med school later, no stressing over the MCAT (in many cases).

Total length ranges from 6 to 8 years instead of the usual 8+ years (4 undergrad + 4 med school)
A 6-year program = only 2 years of undergrad before jumping into medical school
A 7-year program = 3 years undergrad + 4 years med school
A 8-year program = standard 4+4, but with guaranteed admission locked in

NYC / New York Programs Specifically

The biggest one in NYC is:

CUNY School of Medicine (formerly Sophie Davis) - City College of New York

This is a 7-year BS/MD program (2 years pre-med at CCNY + 5 years at CUNY School of Medicine)
It's MCAT-free and heavily focused on serving underserved communities
Very competitive, but it's NYC-based and affordable for NY residents
Considered one of the best-value programs in the country

Other New York state programs include:

SUNY Upstate Medical University combined program
Stony Brook University accelerated programs
Albany Medical College combined BS/MD options with partner schools

Key Things to Know

Feature	BS/MD Programs	Traditional Path
Time to MD	6-8 years	8+ years
MCAT	Often waived or reduced	Required
When you apply	Senior year of high school	After undergrad
Acceptance rates	Extremely low (1-5%)	~7% med school avg
Flexibility	Less (locked in early)	More

The Trade-Off

These programs are extremely hard to get into - often harder than getting into a top undergrad school. You're competing with other high schoolers who already have strong science grades, research, volunteering, and sometimes even publications. The upside is the certainty and time savings.

The AAMC (Association of American Medical Colleges) maintains the official list of all combined baccalaureate-MD programs updated for 2025-2026 if you want to browse every program by state and length.

So yes - the "rumors" are true. It's a real and well-established path, especially popular in New York!

Is it good for cardiologist

Good question! The short answer is: it depends on the person, but there are some real pros and cons specific to wanting to become a cardiologist.

Here's the thing - cardiology is one of the longest training paths in all of medicine:

Total Years to Become a Cardiologist

Stage	Years
Undergrad	4 (or 2-3 in BS/MD)
Medical School	4
Internal Medicine Residency	3
Cardiology Fellowship	3
Sub-specialty fellowship (optional, e.g. interventional)	+1-2
Total	~14-16 years from high school

The Case FOR BS/MD if You Want Cardiology

Saves 1-2 years on the front end, which matters when your total training is already 14+ years
No MCAT stress - you can spend that energy doing cardiology-related research or shadowing early
Guaranteed med school seat - removes one massive obstacle
Financial savings - 1-2 fewer years of college tuition and opportunity costs
If you're 100% sure you want medicine, there's almost no downside to starting sooner

The Case AGAINST (or reasons to think carefully)

Cardiology is hyper-competitive - you need to match into internal medicine residency first, then beat out hundreds of applicants for cardiology fellowship. The med school you attend matters a lot here. Some BS/MD partner medical schools are less prestigious, which can hurt fellowship applications
Less time to explore - some future cardiologists discover their passion through research, shadowing, or a class in undergrad. Rushing past that can mean less certainty
Undergrad research matters - top cardiology fellows often have strong research backgrounds. A full 4-year undergrad at a strong research university can set you up better for this
Burnout risk - being locked into medicine at 17-18 years old is a big commitment. Cardiology training is grueling, and people who had time to explore tend to be more resilient

The Bottom Line

If you are absolutely certain you want to be a doctor and are strongly leaning toward cardiology (or at least internal medicine), a BS/MD program is a solid choice - especially one attached to a well-regarded medical school. The time and cost savings are real.

But if your goal is specifically to be a competitive interventional or academic cardiologist at a top hospital, attending a more prestigious medical school (even via the traditional path) may actually open more doors in the long run.

The ideal scenario: do a BS/MD at a program whose medical school has strong residency match rates into internal medicine at academic centers. That's the best of both worlds.

So right now am gonna be in 11 grade

That's actually perfect timing! 11th grade is exactly when you should start preparing for BS/MD programs. You apply during 12th grade, so you have about a year to build your profile.

Here's what you should be doing right now:

Your 11th Grade BS/MD Checklist

📚 Academics (Most Important)

GPA needs to be strong - most programs want 3.7+ unweighted
Take AP Biology, AP Chemistry, AP Calculus if you haven't already
These programs look at your science GPA specifically
SAT/ACT - aim for 1450+ SAT or 32+ ACT for competitive programs

🏥 Clinical Experience

Shadow a doctor - ideally a cardiologist or internist in NYC
Volunteer at a hospital (NYC has tons - NYP, Mount Sinai, Montefiore, etc.)
Even 50-100 hours of shadowing this year looks great on applications

🔬 Research

Look for summer research programs - many NYC hospitals and universities offer them to high schoolers
Programs like Rockefeller University Summer Science Research, MSSM (Mount Sinai) high school programs, or Columbia Secondary School Research
Even one research experience sets you way apart

📝 Extracurriculars

Science club, health-related volunteering, tutoring
Leadership roles matter - be a president or founder of something
Community service, especially in underserved communities (CUNY's program loves this)

NYC-Specific Programs to Target

Given you're in NYC, these are your most realistic targets:

Program	Length	Notes
CUNY School of Medicine (CCNY)	7 years	Best NYC option, MCAT-free, affordable
Stony Brook (various)	8 years	Good state school option
SUNY Downstate	Combined options	NYC-based
Hofstra/Northwell	8 years	Long Island, but close to NYC

Your Timeline

Now (11th grade): Build GPA, get shadowing/volunteering, prep for SAT/ACT, look into summer research programs
Summer before 12th: Do a research or hospital program, finalize SAT score
Fall of 12th grade: Apply to BS/MD programs (most deadlines are Oct-Dec)
Winter/Spring of 12th: Interviews, decisions

You're at the right place at the right time. The #1 thing that separates BS/MD applicants is genuine clinical exposure + strong grades. Start getting into hospitals or clinics now - even volunteering counts. Do you want help finding specific shadowing or research opportunities in NYC?

And my school is epic high school north

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EPIC High School North NYC location programs AP courses

Got it! So you're at EPIC High School North in South Richmond Hill, Queens. Here's what's important for you specifically:

What I Know About Your School

It's a public school in Queens with AP courses available
APs offered include: AP Computer Science Principles, AP English Lit, AP Pre-Calculus, AP Psychology, AP Seminar
Project-based curriculum

The Honest Reality

Your school does not appear to offer AP Biology or AP Chemistry - which are the most important APs for BS/MD applications. This is actually a common challenge for Queens public school students, but it's not a dealbreaker at all. Here's how you work around it:

What You Should Do Given Your School

1. Take Dual Enrollment at CUNY

Queens has Queens College, York College, and LaGuardia Community College nearby
NYC public school students can take free college courses through programs like CUNY HEOP or College Now
Taking Intro Biology, General Chemistry, or Calculus at a CUNY campus looks excellent on BS/MD apps - sometimes better than AP

2. Target CUNY School of Medicine Extra Hard

CUNY SOM is literally designed for NYC public school students from underserved communities like South Richmond Hill
Queens is a diverse, underserved borough - that is a genuine advantage for CUNY SOM's mission
They specifically value students who reflect the communities they'll serve

3. Use Your Queens Location

You're close to some of the best hospitals for shadowing:

Jamaica Hospital Medical Center - very close to you
NewYork-Presbyterian Queens
Long Island Jewish Medical Center
Mount Sinai South Nassau

4. SAT Prep is Key

Since you may have fewer AP options, a strong SAT score (1400+) becomes even more important to show academic strength.

Your Realistic Roadmap from EPIC North

Action	When
Sign up for College Now (free CUNY courses)	Right now / fall semester
Volunteer at Jamaica Hospital or NYP Queens	Start this summer
SAT prep	This summer, take test in fall of 12th
Research CUNY SOM program requirements	This summer
Shadow a doctor in Queens	Fall of 11th grade

You're actually in a good position - Queens, public school, underrepresented community background. CUNY School of Medicine was literally built for students like you. Want me to pull up exactly what CUNY SOM looks for in applicants?

I did apples for that

Wait - do you mean you already applied to CUNY School of Medicine's BS/MD program? Or did you mean you applied for College Now (the free CUNY courses)?

Just want to make sure I understand so I can give you the right advice! 😊

How can I put image in this to show you

You can share an image by using the attachment/upload button in the chat - it usually looks like a 📎 paperclip icon or a photo icon near where you type your message.

Once you upload it, I can read and analyze whatever it shows - like a screenshot of an application, a letter, your transcript, or anything else you want to share!That's awesome - you already applied for College Now at CUNY City College! That's a great move. Here's what I can see from your application:

What You Applied For

Program: College Now (Non-Degree Undergraduate) at City College of New York
Course 1 choice: BIO 10004 - Human Biology (Online, Mon-Thu, July 6-31, 1:30-4:45pm)
Course 2 choice: Also BIO 10004 - Human Biology as backup
Course 3 choice: PSY 10200 - Applications of Psychology in the Modern World
School: Epic HS - North, South Richmond Hill, NY ✓

This is Actually a Smart Move

BIO 10004 Human Biology at City College is exactly the kind of college-level science course that strengthens a BS/MD application. It shows you can handle college coursework while still in high school.

A few things to keep in mind:

Class One shows as "closed" - so your backup (Class Two, same BIO course) may be what you get
Make sure you do well - a college grade on your transcript matters. An A in this course is a big boost
This is through CUNY CUNYfirst which means it's free for NYC public school students

Next Steps After This Course

Ace the biology course - aim for an A, no excuses
Use City College's campus to start networking - talk to advisors about CUNY School of Medicine
Look into CUNY SOM's Sophie Davis program requirements - this biology course directly aligns with their prerequisites

You're already ahead of most 11th graders. Keep it up! 🎯

But I didn’t like get any mail or letter that the classes have started

That's worth checking on right away! Looking at your application, the course was scheduled for July 6-31 - and today is July 14, so the class has already been running for over a week!

Here's what you should do today:

Check These Things Right Now

1. Check Your Email (including spam/junk)

Look for emails from @cuny.edu or @ccny.cuny.edu
Check the email on your application: krishpreet001@gmail.com
Search for "College Now" or "BIO 10004" or "CUNYfirst"

2. Log Into CUNYfirst

Go to cunyfirst.cuny.edu
Check if you were actually enrolled in the course
Your application being submitted doesn't always mean automatic enrollment - it may need approval

3. Check Your Application Status

Remember your screenshot said "Class One - closed"
You may have been waitlisted or moved to Class Two
The application may still be pending review

Who to Call/Email Tomorrow Morning

CUNY College Now at City College

Phone: (212) 650-5267
Email: Search "CCNY College Now contact" for their current email
Explain you applied, haven't heard back, and classes seem to have already started

Don't Panic Yet

It's possible:

Your application is still being processed
They communicate through CUNYfirst, not Gmail
You got into the July session which may have a different start date

Log into CUNYfirst first - that's your most important step right now. Do you have your login info?

Alr so am gonna write a mail what should I say

Here's a clean, professional email you can copy and send:

Subject: College Now Application Status Inquiry – BIO 10004 Summer Session

To: (Find the College Now email on the CUNY/CCNY website)

Dear College Now Program Coordinator,

My name is Krishpreet and I am a rising 11th grade student at Epic High School North in South Richmond Hill, Queens. I recently submitted an application to the College Now program at City College of New York for the Summer session.

I applied for BIO 10004 – Human Biology (Online Synchronous, Monday–Thursday, July 6–31, 1:30–4:45 PM) as my first choice course. However, I have not received any confirmation email or enrollment information, and I noticed the course may have already begun.

Could you please let me know:

The status of my application
Whether I have been enrolled in the course
If there are any next steps I need to complete

My OSIS number is 260358999 and my email is krishpreet001@gmail.com.

Thank you for your time and I look forward to hearing from you.

Sincerely, Krishpreet Epic High School North – Grade 11

Tips Before Sending

Find the right email - go to the CCNY College Now page and look for their contact email
Send it today since the course is already a week in
Be polite but mention the urgency - every day you miss is a missed class
Also try calling (212) 650-5267 - a phone call often gets faster results than email

Good luck! 🤞

Can you give me email not able to find

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CCNY City College College Now program contact email address 2025

Got it! Here's the contact info:

CCNY College Now Contact

📧 Email: collegenow@ccny.cuny.edu

📞 Phone: (212) 650-6316

Director: Andrenetta Collins

Send the email I wrote you to collegenow@ccny.cuny.edu and also try calling tomorrow morning when they open - a phone call will get you a faster answer since the course is already running. Good luck! 🤞

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