Preservation of viscera in suspected poisoning cases
| Organ/Fluid | Quantity | Rationale |
|---|---|---|
| Stomach + contents | Entire (wall if empty) | Most poisons taken orally; highest initial concentration here |
| Upper small intestine + contents | ~30 cm length | Ongoing absorption, quantifies ingestion timeline |
| Liver | 200-300 g | Major detoxicating organ; concentrates poisons even when blood levels are low |
| Kidney | Half of each kidney | Organ of excretion; large amounts present in urine |
| Blood | 30 mL (minimum 10 mL) | Systemic levels; from peripheral vein |
| Urine | 30 mL | Evidence of absorption and excretion |
Note: GI tract contents must be kept in separate bottles from solid viscera, because the relative amounts of poison in stomach vs. intestine vs. solid organs give information about time since ingestion.
Important: Viscera must NOT be preserved in formaldehyde - extraction of poison (especially non-volatile organic compounds) becomes very difficult.
| Organ/Tissue | Quantity | Poisons to Detect |
|---|---|---|
| Heart | As required | Strychnine, digitalis, yellow oleander |
| Brain (cerebrum/cerebellum) | 100 g | Alkaloids, organophosphates, opiates, CO, cyanide, strychnine, barbiturates, anesthetics, volatile organic poisons |
| Spinal cord | Entire length | Strychnine, gelsemium |
| Gallbladder/Bile | Bile via puncturing gall bladder in situ | Morphine, cocaine, methadone, barbiturates, major tranquilizers |
| Vitreous humor | As available | Alcohol, chloroform, cocaine, morphine, TCAs, urea, creatinine, sugar, electrolytes |
| CSF | As available | Alcohol |
| Lung (one lung) | Full lung | Gaseous poisons, HCN, alcohol, chloroform - tie trachea, collect bronchial air in nylon bag (heat-sealed) |
| Fatty tissue (abdominal wall / perinephric region) | 10 g | Pesticides, insecticides |
| Skin (with underlying fat/muscle) | 10 cm radius around injection/absorption site | Insulin, morphine, heroin, cocaine, corrosive poisons |
| Bone (femur shaft) | 10 cm | Chronic/subacute poisoning by arsenic, antimony, thallium, radium |
| Hair | 20-30 strands with roots (head hair) | Chronic heavy metal poisoning (arsenic, etc.) |
| Nails | All nails (removed entirely) | Heavy metals |
| Muscle (thigh) | 50-100 g (3x3 cm) | Used when internal organs are badly putrefied |
| Uterus + appendages + upper vagina | Entire | Criminal abortion cases; foreign bodies sent separately |
Postmortem note: After death, cellular barriers of mucous and serous membranes break down, so substances in the GI tract can migrate to thoracic and abdominal organs - causing a false rise in apparent blood levels. This is why separate bottling of GI contents vs. solid viscera is essential.
Numbered bottle for viscera preservation from fmt reddy
| Bottle | Contents | Poisons |
|---|---|---|
| Brain (100 g) | Cerebrum or cerebellum | Alkaloids, organophosphates, opiates, CO, cyanide, strychnine, barbiturates, anesthetics, volatile organics |
| Heart | Full heart | Strychnine, digitalis, yellow oleander |
| Spinal cord | Entire length | Strychnine, gelsemium |
| Lung (one full lung) | In nylon bag, heat-sealed; tie trachea and collect bronchial air | Gaseous poisons, HCN, alcohol, chloroform |
| Bile/Gallbladder | Puncture gall bladder in situ | Morphine, cocaine, methadone, barbiturates, major tranquilizers |
| Vitreous humor | As available | Alcohol, cocaine, morphine, TCAs, chloroform |
| CSF | As available | Alcohol |
| Fatty tissue (abdominal wall) | 10 g | Pesticides, insecticides |
| Bone (femur shaft, 10 cm) | - | Chronic arsenic, antimony, thallium, radium |
| Hair (20-30 strands with roots) | - | Chronic heavy metals |
| Nails (all, removed entirely) | - | Heavy metals |
| Skin (10 cm radius + fat + muscle around injection site) | Control from opposite side | Insulin, morphine, heroin, cocaine, corrosive poisons |
| Muscle (thigh, 50-100 g) | Used if organs are putrefied | Reflects blood levels accurately |
| Uterus + appendages + upper vagina | Separately: any foreign bodies | Criminal abortion |
| Preservative | NOT used when |
|---|---|
| Saturated NaCl | Corrosive acids (except phenol), alkalis, corrosive sublimate, aconite |
| Rectified spirit | Alcohol, kerosene, chloroform, ether, chloral hydrate, formic acid, formaldehyde, acetic acid, phenol, phosphorus, paraldehyde |
| Potassium oxalate (in blood) | Oxalic acid / ethylene glycol poisoning - use sodium citrate instead |
| Sodium fluoride (in blood) | Fluoride poisoning - use sodium nitrite instead |
Tardieu spots
These signs develop when mechanical obstruction to breathing is maintained for about 30 seconds. (Parikh's)
| Location | Notes |
|---|---|
| Visceral/subpleural surface of lungs | Most prominent; especially in interlobar fissures and around the hilum - "true" Tardieu spots |
| Epicardium/pericardium | Subpericardial petechiae - very classic |
| Conjunctivae | Highly sensitive sign; easily visible |
| Face and eyelids | Skin of face; especially prominent above level of neck compression |
| Epiglottis | Serous surface |
| Meninges | Petechiae in white matter of brain; larger patches in subarachnoid space |
| Brain | White matter; superficial vessels rupture from acute venous engorgement |
| Thymus | Especially numerous in infants and children |
In carotid artery obstruction: facial, cerebral, and orbital petechiae are LESS prominent than in pure venous obstruction (because arterial supply is also cut off, reducing overall blood flow and pressure). Sudden complete carotid obstruction can cause facial pallor.
In strangling: spots are more pronounced above the level of constriction of the neck.
In traumatic asphyxia: spots are more pronounced in the chest.


| Feature | True (Antemortem) Tardieu Spots | False (Postmortem) Petechiae |
|---|---|---|
| Origin | Antemortem - due to asphyxial hypoxia + pressure | Postmortem - gravitational settling of blood rupturing capillaries |
| Location | Serous surfaces (visceral pleura, epicardium), conjunctiva, face | Skin of dependent areas - hands, legs; NOT on serous surfaces of heart/lungs |
| Appearance | Small, round, circumscribed, dark-red | Larger, less circumscribed |
| Mechanism | Hypoxia + raised intracapillary pressure | Gravitational blood pooling in dependent areas with capillary over-distension |
| Timing | Develop within ~30 seconds of obstruction | Usually take 18-24 hours; in hanging limbs may appear as early as 2-4 h |
| Significance | Strong indicator of mechanical asphyxia | NOT indicative of asphyxia |
Gordon and Mansfield (and later Shapiro, 1955) questioned the antemortem origin of many of these spots. Zaini and Knight (1981) confirmed that only one-third of subpleural hemorrhages are true petechiae and two-thirds are false - due to intrapleural venous channels, air blisters, thickened pleural plaques, and dust pigments. They are difficult to distinguish by naked eye. (Dikshit)
How do you differentiate it from measles rash
| Feature | Tardieu Spots | Measles Rash (Rubeola) |
|---|---|---|
| Nature | Petechial hemorrhages - blood outside vessels | Maculopapular exanthem - inflammatory skin lesion |
| Color | Dark red / purple (non-blanching on pressure) | Erythematous red (blanches on pressure initially) |
| Feel | Flat, do NOT blanch on pressure (glass test negative for blanching) | Maculopapular - slightly raised, blanchable initially |
| Distribution | Face, eyelids, conjunctivae; also serous surfaces internally | Starts on forehead/hairline/behind ears → descends to trunk → extremities (cephalocaudal spread) |
| Conjunctival involvement | Petechiae ON the conjunctiva | Conjunctivitis (redness/discharge) - NOT petechiae |
| Internal findings | Present on visceral pleura, epicardium at autopsy | Absent internally (no serous surface petechiae) |
| Associated signs | Context of asphyxial death - ligature mark, cyanosis, congestion | Koplik's spots on buccal mucosa (pathognomonic), prodrome of 3 Cs (cough, coryza, conjunctivitis), fever |
| History/context | Found at autopsy in suspected asphyxial death | Living patient with febrile illness, upper respiratory prodrome |
| Coalescence | Individual spots that may aggregate into purpura but remain distinct | Lesions coalesce into confluent semiconfluent patches |
| Scalp/ears | Petechiae behind ears possible (from pressure/venous obstruction) | Rash prominent behind ears and hairline at onset |
| Timing | Develop within seconds to minutes of obstruction | Rash appears day 3-5 of illness, after prodrome |
What are the other signs of mechanical asphyxia besides Tardieu spots?
| Sign | Mechanism | Specificity |
|---|---|---|
| Cyanosis | ↑ reduced Hb (≥5 g%) | Non-specific; common terminal sign |
| Visceral congestion | Obstructed venous return + capillo-venous dilatation | Non-specific |
| Fluidity of blood | Fibrinolysis; rapid death | Non-specific; not exclusive to asphyxia |
| Tardieu spots | ↑ venous pressure + hypoxic capillary fragility | Relatively more specific when on serous surfaces |
| Pulmonary oedema | Heart failure / ↑ capillary permeability | Non-specific |
| Pulmonary/submucosal haemorrhage | Venous congestion; trauma to cricoid | Somewhat suggestive |
| ↑ Capillary permeability | Hypoxia + stasis | Underlying mechanism of several above signs |
"The classical signs of asphyxia are visceral congestion, petechiae, cyanosis and fluidity of blood. These are nonspecific, however, and can occur in deaths from other causes."
Asphyxia long question for fmt mbbs exam from ksn reddy 36 th edition
The term asphyxia indicates a mode of dying, rather than a cause of death.
Asphyxia → capillary dilatation → stasis → reduced venous return to heart → reduced pulmonary blood flow → deficient oxygenation → further asphyxia
Hydrostatic test
Note: Do not confuse with Fodere's test / Static test (based on weight of lung relative to body weight) or Plouquet's test - these are different, related tests.
"Even with compression, if the alveoli are aerated at all, they will still contain some residual air after squeezing." (Dikshit)
| Result | Interpretation |
|---|---|
| All portions of the pluck and all fragments float (after squeezing), body not putrefied | Complete respiration has taken place - child was live-born |
| Only some fragments float | Partial respiration has taken place |
| All pieces of lungs sink | Lungs unexpanded - infant has not breathed - possibly stillborn |
| Feature | Before Respiration (Stillborn) | After Respiration (Live-born) |
|---|---|---|
| Chest shape | Flat; circumference 1-2 cm less than abdomen at umbilical level | Expands; arch-shaped / drum-shaped |
| Diaphragm position | At level of 4th rib | At level of 6th-7th rib |
| Lung filling | Fills 75% of pleural cavity volume | Fills 75% of pleural cavity volume |
| Margins | Sharp | Rounded |
| Consistency | Dense, firm, non-crepitant, liver-like | Soft, spongy, elastic, crepitant |
| Colour | Uniformly reddish-brown, bluish or deep violet | Mottled/marbled; mosaic appearance on surface (polygonal areas) |
| On pressing | Little froth-less blood comes out | Frothy blood comes out |
| Weight | 30-40 g | 60-70 g |
| Hydrostatic test | Sinks | Floats |
| Specific gravity | ~1040-1050 | ~940-950 |
"The best way to seek proof of respiration is to look at, feel, and listen to the lungs." (Parikh)
| Hydrostatic Test | |
|---|---|
| Also called | Raygat's test; Lung float test |
| Described by | Scheyer (1683) |
| Principle | Specific gravity change after aeration (1040-1050 → 940) |
| Positive = floats | Respiration established → live born |
| Negative = sinks | No respiration → stillborn (possibly) |
| Overall forensic value | Unreliable; considerable fallacies; not used alone |
Gettlers test
First published by: Gettler in 1921
| Condition | Left Heart Chloride | Right Heart Chloride | Result |
|---|---|---|---|
| Normal (no drowning) | ~600 mg/100 mL | ~600 mg/100 mL | Equal |
| Fresh water drowning | LOW (↓ up to 50%) | Normal/higher | Left < Right |
| Salt water drowning | HIGH (↑ 30-40%) | Normal/lower | Left > Right |
| Significant difference | ≥ 25 mg/100 mL difference | → Indicates drowning |
| Year | Researcher | Contribution |
|---|---|---|
| 1902 | Carrara | Established disproportionate dilution of left heart blood in freshwater vs. saltwater based on specific gravity and freezing point |
| 1903 | Placzela | Emphasized diagnostic value of specific gravity method |
| 1921 | Gettler | Published the chloride test - difference of 25 mg/100 mL between sides indicates drowning |
| 1944 | Mortiz | Suggested magnesium as more reliable than chloride, particularly for saltwater drowning |
| 1955 | Freimuth et al. | Using specific gravity of heart plasma: negative differences may occur in both drowning and non-drowning; positive values usually indicate death by means other than drowning |
| Feature | Gettler's Test |
|---|---|
| Based on | Chloride difference between right and left heart blood |
| Described by | Gettler, 1921 |
| Significant difference | ≥ 25 mg/100 mL |
| Fresh water | Left chloride lower than right |
| Salt water | Left chloride higher than right |
| Current status | Doubtful/unreliable - not used alone |
Disaster cycle from park