Patient , known case of multiple drug abuse came with history of unresponsive episode. He isn’t awake so history can’t be elicited. Suspected tramadol poisoning as he has history of tramadol ingestion but also morphine ingestion. Blood reports not available. Urine tox not available. Informant don’t know what he took. Sudden jerky movements of whole body lasting a few seconds occurring every 10 minutes with no other seizure signs. What can I do as a psychiatry resident

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This is a complex and time-sensitive clinical scenario. Here is a structured approach as a psychiatry resident managing this patient:

IMMEDIATE PRIORITY: This Is a Medical Emergency First

As psychiatry, your first role is to stabilize and call for emergency/medicine support simultaneously. Do not manage this alone - get emergency medicine involved immediately.

Step 1: Recognize the Clinical Syndrome

What you're dealing with - two overlapping poisoning patterns:

Tramadol is unique - it has a dual mechanism that produces two distinct toxidromes:
  1. Opioid agonist toxidrome (shared with morphine) - via mu-opioid receptors:
    • Classic triad: miosis (pinpoint pupils) + respiratory depression + decreased consciousness
    • Bradycardia, hypothermia, hypotension
  2. Non-opioid toxicity - via serotonin/norepinephrine reuptake inhibition + GABA antagonism:
    • Seizures - this is the key point here
    • Serotonin syndrome features (if on SSRIs/MAOIs): hyperthermia, hyperreflexia, clonus, agitation
The jerky movements every 10 minutes you're describing are most consistent with myoclonic jerks or brief seizures from tramadol's non-opioid mechanism (GABA-antagonism lowering seizure threshold), not classic tonic-clonic epilepsy. This is a well-documented feature of tramadol overdose specifically.
  • Tintinalli's Emergency Medicine notes: "Seizures associated with overdoses of tramadol and meperidine" are a recognized feature distinct from other opioids.

Step 2: Immediate Bedside Assessment (Do This Now)

ABC first:
  • Airway - is it patent? Jaw tone? Secretions?
  • Breathing - respiratory rate, depth, SpO2 on pulse oximetry
  • Circulation - pulse, BP, HR, capillary refill
Quick neurological exam:
  • Pupil size - miosis (pinpoint) = opioid toxidrome; mydriasis = stimulant, serotonin syndrome, or withdrawal
  • GCS - quantify level of consciousness
  • Reflexes - hyperreflexia + clonus = serotonin syndrome
  • Temperature - hyperthermia points toward serotonin syndrome
  • Muscle tone - rigidity = serotonin syndrome; flaccidity = pure opioid
  • Look for needle marks, patches, pill packets hidden in clothing (always undress fully)
Monitoring to establish:
  • Continuous SpO2
  • Cardiac monitor (tramadol + morphine both affect QT; arrhythmias are possible)
  • IV access
  • Blood glucose immediately (hypoglycemia mimics this entirely)

Step 3: Administer Naloxone - With Important Caveats

Naloxone reverses the opioid component (morphine + tramadol's mu-receptor effect):
  • Start IV: 0.4 mg naloxone IV, can repeat every 2-3 minutes
  • Goal is restoration of adequate ventilation (RR >10/min, SpO2 >92%) - NOT full arousal
  • If no IV access: IM or intranasal naloxone are acceptable alternatives
  • If no response after 10 mg total naloxone, reconsider the diagnosis - think benzodiazepines, alcohol, other CNS depressants, or a structural CNS cause
Critical caveat for tramadol specifically:
  • Naloxone only partially reverses tramadol toxicity
  • The seizures from tramadol are NOT reversed by naloxone - they occur via the non-opioid (GABA antagonist/serotonergic) mechanism
  • Naloxone will NOT stop those jerky movements
  • (Katzung notes: tramadol's analgesic effect "is only weakly antagonized by naloxone")

Step 4: Manage the Seizure/Myoclonic Activity

The repetitive jerky movements every 10 minutes with no postictal state, no tongue bite, no incontinence pattern and brief duration is more consistent with tramadol-induced myoclonus or subclinical seizures, but must be treated:
  • Benzodiazepines are first line for seizure control:
    • Diazepam 5-10 mg IV slowly OR
    • Lorazepam 2-4 mg IV
    • These also work synergistically with GABA
  • Do NOT use phenytoin first-line for drug-induced seizures (less effective in metabolic/toxic causes)
  • If seizures persist: move to phenobarbital (especially useful here as it has GABA-enhancing properties that directly counter tramadol's GABA antagonism)

Step 5: Differential Diagnosis to Keep in Mind

Since you don't know what he took:
FeatureFavors
Miosis + bradycardia + hypoventilationOpioid (morphine dominant)
Myoclonus + seizuresTramadol non-opioid toxicity
Hyperreflexia + hyperthermia + clonusSerotonin syndrome (if on SSRIs)
Responds to naloxoneOpioid component present
No response to naloxoneThink benzodiazepines, alcohol, CNS bleed, GHB
Normal pupilsNot pure opioid - think mixed
Also rule out: hypoglycemia (immediate glucometer), Wernicke's (give thiamine 100 mg IV empirically in a substance user), meningitis (if fever + neck stiffness), intracranial bleed.

Step 6: Empirical IV Thiamine (Mandatory in Drug Users)

In any altered-consciousness patient with substance use history:
  • Thiamine 100 mg IV BEFORE any dextrose
  • This prevents precipitating/worsening Wernicke's encephalopathy

Step 7: Investigations to Order

Even if not immediately available, request:
  • Blood glucose (do fingerstick NOW)
  • ABG (most important - assesses respiratory failure, acidosis)
  • ECG (QT prolongation from opioids, tramadol)
  • CBC, BMP/electrolytes, renal and liver function
  • Urine toxicology screen
  • Serum acetaminophen/paracetamol (often co-ingested in tramadol combination tablets)
  • Blood ethanol level

Step 8: Ongoing Management

  • Airway: If respiratory rate drops below 10 or SpO2 <90% despite O2 and naloxone - prepare for bag-valve mask ventilation and call for intubation
  • Naloxone infusion: Because morphine and tramadol have longer half-lives than naloxone (60-90 min), the patient may re-narcotize after initial reversal. If they respond to naloxone initially, start a naloxone infusion (typically 2/3 of the effective bolus dose per hour)
  • Positioning: Left lateral decubitus (recovery position) if not intubated, to prevent aspiration
  • Do NOT give more than 10 mg naloxone total without reassessing - if no response, the primary problem is not opioid toxicity alone

Your Role as Psychiatry Resident - Practical Points

  1. Consult emergency medicine/toxicology immediately - you should not be managing this alone; psychiatry leads on the substance use history and long-term plan, but acute toxicology is EM/ICU territory
  2. If in a setting without EM backup, you are the treating physician and must follow the ABCDE approach above
  3. Document everything: time of discovery, GCS, pupils, vitals, interventions with timestamps
  4. Do NOT administer antipsychotics (haloperidol, etc.) right now - they further lower seizure threshold
  5. Avoid flumazenil empirically (can precipitate withdrawal seizures if benzos are on board)
  6. Once stable, a formal psychiatric assessment, substance use disorder evaluation, and safety planning will be your domain

Summary Algorithm

Unresponsive drug user suspected tramadol/morphine
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ABC + O2 + monitoring + IV access + fingerstick glucose
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Empirical thiamine 100mg IV
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Naloxone 0.4mg IV (repeat q2-3 min, titrate to RR>10)
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If seizures/myoclonus → benzodiazepine IV (lorazepam/diazepam)
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No naloxone response → consider mixed overdose (BZD, EtOH, structural)
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Consider naloxone infusion if initial response then re-narcotization
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ECG, ABG, labs, ICU/HD monitoring
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Call toxicology/EM if available

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Patient is at ER

Good - ER is the right place. Now the question is: what is your specific role right now as the psychiatry resident on the scene?
Here's the practical breakdown:

Your Immediate Role in the ER

1. Hand Off the Acute Medical Management to ER Team

The ER physician/team owns:
  • Airway management
  • Naloxone administration
  • Seizure control
  • Vitals monitoring and resuscitation
You assist, you don't lead - unless you're the only doctor present.

2. What YOU Should Be Doing Right Now

Collateral history - this is your primary job:
  • Question the informant more carefully:
    • What drugs does he usually take? In what combinations?
    • Does he use tramadol for recreational or pain purposes?
    • Is he on any prescribed medications (SSRIs, TCAs, MAOIs)? - critical for serotonin syndrome risk
    • Any recent dose changes or binging?
    • How long has he been unresponsive?
    • Did anyone witness the episode?
    • Any empty bottles, blister packs, syringes at the scene?
    • Has this happened before? What happened last time?
Check for a prescription history if the hospital has electronic records - tramadol is often prescribed; check what doses and by whom.

3. Watch the Jerky Movements Closely

Describe them precisely to the ER team:
  • Are they symmetrical or asymmetrical?
  • Which body parts? (whole body vs limbs vs face)
  • Is there eye deviation?
  • Any postictal drowsiness after each episode?
  • Any tongue bite, urinary incontinence?
  • Frequency changing (improving, worsening)?
This characterization matters because:
  • Myoclonus (sudden brief jerks, no loss of further tone, no postictal phase) = tramadol-specific, treat with benzodiazepines, not phenytoin
  • Generalized tonic-clonic = broader anticonvulsant strategy needed
  • Decerebrate/decorticate posturing = structural brain event, needs CT head urgently

4. Communicate One Critical Point to the ER Team

"Tramadol seizures do NOT respond to naloxone - they need benzodiazepines."
This is the single most important clinical pearl here. ER teams sometimes focus only on naloxone and miss the non-opioid component of tramadol toxicity. If the patient gets naloxone, wakes up slightly, but keeps having jerky movements - that's expected, and benzodiazepines are needed.

5. Monitor the Naloxone Response Together

ResponseWhat it means
Pupils dilate + RR improves within 2-3 minOpioid component confirmed
Patient suddenly agitated, combativeNaloxone precipitated withdrawal - expected
No response at all after 2-3 dosesThink mixed overdose - benzodiazepines, alcohol, GHB, structural cause
Improves then deteriorates againRe-narcotization - naloxone infusion needed

6. Flag Serotonin Syndrome to the Team

If the patient is on any SSRIs, SNRIs, or MAOIs (ask the informant and check records):
  • Tramadol + those drugs = serotonin syndrome risk
  • Look for: hyperthermia, clonus (especially ankle), hyperreflexia, diaphoresis, agitation
  • Treatment is cyproheptadine + benzodiazepines - NOT naloxone

7. What NOT to Do

  • Don't give haloperidol or any antipsychotic - lowers seizure threshold further
  • Don't give flumazenil empirically - can trigger severe withdrawal seizures if benzodiazepines are on board
  • Don't assume the seizures will stop with naloxone
  • Don't discharge or transfer to psych ward until medically cleared and stable for at least 4-6 hours post last seizure

8. Your Documentation Right Now

Start a psychiatric note documenting:
  • Time of presentation
  • Collateral history obtained
  • Known substance use history
  • Any psychiatric comorbidities
  • Medications prescribed
  • Your clinical observations
This becomes the foundation for the substance use disorder evaluation once he's medically stable.

Bottom line for right now: Get good collateral history, watch the seizure semiology carefully, tell the ER team naloxone won't fix the jerks, and make sure benzodiazepines are ready. Your psychiatric role begins in full once he's medically stable - right now you're a clinical observer, historian, and team communicator.

Pupil seem non reactive

Non-reactive pupils changes everything. This is now a neurosurgical/critical emergency.

Stop and Clarify First: What Do the Pupils Look Like?

This is critical before interpreting:
FindingWhat it means
Pinpoint (miotic) + non-reactiveClassic opioid toxidrome - morphine/tramadol
Mid-size (4-5mm) + non-reactiveMidbrain lesion - structural cause (bleed, herniation)
Dilated (>6mm) + non-reactiveSevere anoxic brain injury, herniation, or anticholinergic/stimulant overdose
Unequal (anisocoria) + non-reactiveUnilateral herniation - neurosurgical emergency
Go look again right now with a bright torch and tell the ER team exactly:
  • Size in mm (or small/medium/large)
  • Equal or unequal
  • Any reaction at all, even sluggish?

If Pupils Are PINPOINT + Non-reactive

This is classic deep opioid toxidrome - morphine/tramadol dominant.
Action:
  • Naloxone should already be going - if not, give 0.4 mg IV now
  • Pinpoint non-reactive pupils in this context = heavy opioid load
  • Expect pupils to dilate within 2-3 minutes of naloxone if this is the cause
  • If they dilate → diagnosis confirmed, continue naloxone titration

If Pupils Are MID-SIZE or DILATED + Non-reactive

This is a red flag for structural brain pathology, not just drug toxicity.
Possibilities:
  • Intracranial hemorrhage (subdural, subarachnoid, intracerebral)
  • Cerebral herniation from any mass lesion
  • Severe anoxic brain injury from prolonged respiratory depression before arrival
  • Pontine hemorrhage (classically pinpoint + non-reactive mimicking opioids exactly)
Action right now:
  • Inform ER physician immediately - "pupils non-reactive, need urgent CT head"
  • GCS needs to be formally scored - if GCS ≤8, intubation should be considered
  • Neurosurgery on call needs to be alerted

If One Pupil is Larger Than the Other (Anisocoria)

This is a herniation sign until proven otherwise.
  • Blown pupil (dilated, non-reactive) = CN III compression = uncal herniation
  • Call neurosurgery immediately
  • CT head is urgent - not optional

The Key Clinical Decision Right Now

Give naloxone IV if not already given
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Wait 2-3 minutes
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Did pupils change at all?
    YES (miosis improving, some dilation)
        → Opioid toxidrome confirmed
        → Continue naloxone, titrate
        → Still need CT if GCS doesn't improve sufficiently
    
    NO change at all
        → Structural cause must be ruled out
        → CT head URGENTLY
        → GCS ≤8 → intubation
        → Neurosurgery alert

Do Not Assume It's "Just Drugs"

In a poly-drug user who is unresponsive with non-reactive pupils, always remember:
  • Drug users fall, hit their heads, and bleed intracranially
  • They can have subdural hematomas from trauma while intoxicated
  • The seizure activity + unresponsive + non-reactive pupils triad needs a CT head regardless of suspected drug cause
  • Missing a bleed in a "known drug user" is a serious and common clinical error

Right now - go check pupil size and equality precisely, tell the ER doctor, and push for CT head if naloxone doesn't produce pupil response within 5 minutes.

A patient with right sided ischemic stroke and left sided hemiparesis, chronic alcoholism present, last intake 2 days back (1 glass), AST/ALT normal, GGT normal, but USG shows fatty liver and hepatomegaly, currently she didn’t speak but acc to documents she has slurring of speech plus mouth deviation is present. I’m a psychiatry resident called for consultation regarding ADS. I couldn’t examine her for MSE or tremors. What should I do

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Your Psychiatric Consultation: ADS in Acute Ischemic Stroke

This is a high-complexity consultation because the stroke itself masks, mimics, and complicates every standard tool you'd use for alcohol withdrawal assessment. Here's exactly how to think through it.

Step 1: Reframe the Clinical Problem

You are being asked to assess risk of alcohol withdrawal and recommend management. The patient:
  • Is chronically alcohol dependent
  • Last drank 2 days ago (1 glass, reportedly low dose)
  • Cannot speak (dysarthria/aphasia from stroke) - so verbal CIWA items are invalid
  • Cannot cooperate with motor exam (left hemiparesis) - so tremor assessment is invalid
  • Has fatty liver + hepatomegaly but normal LFTs - important for drug choice
The fundamental issue: CIWA-Ar is largely unusable here. 10 of its items require patient verbal response or cooperation. The stroke makes those items impossible to interpret.

Step 2: Collateral History - This Is Your Most Important Tool Now

Since you can't do an MSE, the informant/family interview becomes your primary assessment instrument. Ask specifically:
Drinking pattern:
  • How much per day, how many years?
  • When did she last drink heavily (not just yesterday's 1 glass - what was the baseline)?
  • Has she tried to stop before? What happened?
Prior withdrawal history - the single best predictor of severe withdrawal:
  • Has she ever had seizures during stopping?
  • Has she ever had DTs (confusion, hallucinations, severe shaking)?
  • Has she ever been hospitalized for detox?
  • Did she ever need medication to stop drinking?
Current symptoms (ask family to observe and report):
  • Is she unusually sweaty?
  • Is she restless, agitated, picking at sheets?
  • Are her eyes moving strangely (nystagmus)?
  • Any vomiting?
  • Any episodes of shaking beyond the stroke-related weakness?
Documents she came with:
  • Any outpatient notes, old prescriptions, past psych/medicine records?
  • Check for prior admissions for alcohol-related issues

Step 3: What You CAN Assess Clinically

Even with the stroke, several objective signs remain assessable:
SignHow to assessRelevance
Heart rateNursing observationsTachycardia >100 = early autonomic withdrawal
Blood pressureChartHypertension in withdrawal
SweatingObserve skinDiaphoresis = autonomic activation
TemperatureChartFever in severe withdrawal/DTs
TremorLook at the RIGHT hand/arm (unaffected side)Observable even in hemiparetic patients
Agitation/restlessnessObserve behaviorPsychomotor agitation
Eye movementsNystagmus? Ophthalmoplegia?Critical - see Wernicke below
Nausea/vomitingNursing reportPart of withdrawal
Pupil reactivityBedsideAutonomic state
Key insight: The right side is neurologically intact. Tremor of the right hand, right arm, and right leg can still be assessed - don't skip this just because the left side is paretic.

Step 4: The CIWA-Ar Problem - What to Do Instead

CIWA-Ar is not validated in neurologically impaired patients. Dysarthria, aphasia, and hemiparesis directly invalidate its core items (nausea, headache, anxiety, agitation, tactile/visual/auditory disturbances, tremor, orientation, clouding of sensorium).
Your options:
  1. Modified CIWA approach - score only the items you CAN observe objectively:
    • Tremor (right side)
    • Sweating
    • Agitation (observable behavior)
    • Vital sign changes
    • Nausea/vomiting (nurse report)
    • Use this partial score with clinical judgment
  2. Fixed-dose prophylactic regimen - because the patient CANNOT reliably report symptoms, symptom-triggered therapy is unsafe here. A fixed scheduled dose protocol is more appropriate.
  3. PAWSS (Prediction of Alcohol Withdrawal Severity Scale) - uses history and objective labs, does not require verbal responses, better suited here.

Step 5: Risk Stratification

Based on what you know:
Factors suggesting LOW-MODERATE risk:
  • Last drink was only 1 glass, 2 days ago
  • Normal AST/ALT/GGT (suggesting preserved synthetic function despite fatty liver)
  • She is still alive and not in severe withdrawal 48 hours later
Factors suggesting potentially HIGHER risk:
  • Chronic alcoholism (duration, quantity unknown - need from collateral)
  • Fatty liver + hepatomegaly = long-term heavy use
  • Any prior history of withdrawal seizures/DTs would escalate this immediately
  • She is now medically stressed (acute stroke) - physiological stress accelerates withdrawal
Timing of withdrawal to watch for:
  • Mild withdrawal (anxiety, tremor, sweating): 6-24 hours after last drink - she's already past this
  • Withdrawal seizures: 24-48 hours - she is in this window RIGHT NOW
  • Delirium tremens: 48-72 hours - approaching this window
  • You are consulting at approximately the highest-risk window for both seizures and DTs

Step 6: Critical Complication to Rule Out - Wernicke's Encephalopathy

This is urgent and separate from withdrawal.
She has:
  • Chronic alcoholism
  • Likely nutritional deficiency (fatty liver, hepatomegaly)
  • Acute neurological event (stroke)
  • Reduced/absent speech
Wernicke's triad: confusion + ophthalmoplegia + ataxia
The problem: all three features can be attributed to her stroke. You cannot clinically distinguish Wernicke's from stroke deficits without treating empirically.
Action: Recommend empirical thiamine immediately.
  • Thiamine 100 mg IV TDS (three times daily) for at least 3-5 days
  • Give IV, not oral - alcoholics have impaired GI absorption of thiamine
  • Give BEFORE or with any dextrose/glucose-containing fluids
  • This is low-risk, high-benefit in any chronic alcoholic with acute neurological change
  • Kaplan & Sadock: "Alcohol has indirect effects by causing thiamine, nicotinic acids, B vitamins, and folate deficiencies... indirect neuronal damage through thiamine deficiency causes Wernicke-Korsakoff syndrome"

Step 7: Benzodiazepine Choice - Liver Disease Matters Here

The patient has fatty liver + hepatomegaly. Even though LFTs are currently normal, hepatic metabolism of long-acting benzodiazepines may be impaired.
Avoid:
  • Diazepam (long-acting, active metabolites - accumulates in liver disease)
  • Chlordiazepoxide (same problem)
  • Clonazepam (active metabolites)
Prefer:
  • Lorazepam - no active metabolites, direct glucuronidation, best tolerated in liver disease, can be given IV/IM - this is your drug of choice here
  • Oxazepam - also acceptable but oral only
Maudsley Prescribing Guidelines: "Lorazepam, oxazepam and temazepam do not have active metabolites and are preferred. Lorazepam is considered the best tolerated in advanced liver disease and is commonly used in alcohol withdrawal."
Suggested approach (discuss with treating physician/neurologist):
  • Given she cannot reliably report symptoms: fixed scheduled lorazepam rather than symptom-triggered
  • Typical: Lorazepam 1-2 mg orally/IV every 6-8 hours for 48-72 hours, then taper over 3-5 days
  • Titrate based on observable signs (HR, BP, sweating, agitation, tremor of right side)
  • Be cautious with doses - post-stroke patients are sensitive to sedation; excessive sedation masks neurological deterioration

Step 8: The Stroke Team Communication

Write your consultation note to clearly address:
  1. ADS confirmed by history (chronic alcoholism, last use 2 days ago)
  2. CIWA-Ar cannot be used reliably due to stroke deficits - recommend fixed-dose protocol
  3. Withdrawal risk window is active (48-72 hours post last drink)
  4. Recommend prophylactic lorazepam (preferred over diazepam given liver findings)
  5. Empirical thiamine IV immediately - cannot clinically exclude Wernicke's
  6. Monitor observable withdrawal signs - vitals q4h, right-sided tremor, agitation, diaphoresis
  7. Seizure precautions already in place (stroke team should have these, but confirm)
  8. Do not use haloperidol for agitation if it arises - lowers seizure threshold; use lorazepam instead
  9. Re-consult psychiatry once she can communicate for full MSE, substance use assessment, and discharge planning

Step 9: What You Cannot Do Yet (Document This)

Be transparent in your note:
  • MSE not performed - patient unable to communicate due to acute stroke (dysarthria/aphasia)
  • Tremor assessment limited to right upper/lower limbs only
  • Formal ADS severity assessment (CIWA-Ar, AUDIT) deferred until neurologically stable
  • Suicidality/insight/motivation for treatment cannot be assessed at present
  • Full psychiatric evaluation to be completed once medically and neurologically stable

Summary of Your Consultation Recommendations

ActionRationale
Thiamine 100 mg IV TDS immediatelyEmpirical Wernicke's prophylaxis - cannot exclude
Lorazepam fixed-dose scheduleCIWA cannot be used; liver disease favors short-acting BZD
Avoid diazepam/chlordiazepoxideActive metabolites accumulate with fatty liver
Vitals q4h + right-sided tremor monitoringOnly reliable objective withdrawal markers available
Seizure precautions (confirm with team)In peak seizure window (24-48h post last drink)
Avoid antipsychotics for agitationLowers seizure threshold
Collateral history from familyEssential since patient cannot provide history
Defer full psychiatric evaluationUntil neurologically stable and communicating
Folate + B12 supplementationRoutine in chronic alcoholism

Sources:
  • Kaplan & Sadock's Comprehensive Textbook of Psychiatry - Alcohol Intoxication and Withdrawal
  • The Maudsley Prescribing Guidelines in Psychiatry, 15th Ed - Sedatives in Hepatic Impairment (Table 8.5)
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