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How to Perform the MSE on a Psychiatric Patient in Front of Your Instructor
Think of this as a live performance with a structure underneath it. Your instructor is watching two things simultaneously: (1) your clinical technique and rapport, and (2) whether you are systematically covering every MSE domain. The goal is to make it look like a natural conversation while secretly following a checklist in your head.
Before You Enter the Room
Prepare mentally:
- Review the patient's chart (age, diagnosis, chief complaint, medications)
- Note any safety concerns (agitation, violence history, suicidal ideation)
- Plan your introduction and opening question
Room setup:
- Ensure privacy - if the patient shares a room, request a private space or lower your voice and defer sensitive topics
- Sit at eye level, angled slightly (not directly face-to-face, which can feel confrontational)
- Place yourself between the patient and the door if there is any safety concern
- Put down your pen when the patient is talking emotionally - it signals you are listening
Kaplan and Sadock's Synopsis of Psychiatry, p. 44-45
Step 1 - Introduction (First 60 Seconds)
Say exactly this or a variation:
"Good morning/afternoon, my name is [Your Name], I'm a medical student. I'd like to spend some time with you today to understand how you've been feeling. Is that okay with you?"
Why this matters to your instructor:
- You introduced yourself and your role (transparency)
- You obtained implicit consent before proceeding
- You showed respect
If the patient was brought involuntarily, acknowledge it early:
"I understand you may not have chosen to be here today. I'd still like to hear your perspective."
Kaplan and Sadock's Synopsis of Psychiatry, p. 37
Step 2 - Begin Observing Immediately (MSE Starts Here)
The moment you walk in, your MSE has begun. You do NOT need to ask questions to assess:
| What you observe silently | MSE domain it covers |
|---|
| How the patient is dressed, groomed, hygiene | Appearance |
| Are they sitting still or restless, pacing? | Psychomotor activity |
| Do they make eye contact? | Behavior/attitude |
| Do they look their stated age? | Appearance |
| Are there abnormal movements (tremor, tics)? | Motor |
| Facial expression - sad, blank, fearful? | Affect |
Student tip: Start mentally building your written note from this moment. You are watching the patient, not writing yet.
Step 3 - Open-Ended Questions First (Chief Complaint + History)
Begin broad and let the patient talk:
"What brings you here today?" or "Tell me what's been going on for you."
Use facilitating responses to keep them talking:
- Head nodding
- "I see..." / "Go on..." / "Tell me more about that"
- Leaning slightly forward
Use empathic statements when appropriate:
"That sounds like it's been really difficult for you."
"I can hear how frightened you were."
What your instructor sees: You are building rapport, gathering history, AND passively observing thought process, speech, affect, and behavior - all at the same time.
Kaplan and Sadock's Synopsis of Psychiatry, p. 61-65
Step 4 - Transition to Direct MSE Questions
After the history is underway, transition smoothly into direct MSE testing. Use natural bridges:
Speech (observe throughout, no direct question needed)
Note: rate, volume, tone, fluency, amount. You are already doing this while the patient speaks.
Mood
"How would you describe your mood lately?"
"On a scale of 1 to 10, how would you rate your mood today?"
Affect
Observe continuously - note range, appropriateness, stability. Does the affect match what they are saying?
Thought Content
"Do you ever feel like people are watching you or out to get you?"
"Have you had any thoughts of harming yourself or others?" (MANDATORY - never skip this)
"Do you ever feel like the TV or radio has a special message just for you?"
"Are there any thoughts that keep coming back to you that you can't stop?"
For suicidality - go deeper if positive:
"Do you have a plan? Have you done anything to prepare? Do you have access to [means]?"
Thought Process
You assess this by listening - is the patient answering your questions directly? Are they going off track? Can you follow their train of thought?
Perceptions
"Have you ever seen, heard, or felt things that other people around you couldn't see or hear?"
"Have you heard voices when no one was around?"
If yes: "What do the voices say? Do they tell you to do things?"
Kaplan and Sadock's Synopsis of Psychiatry, p. 53-54
Step 5 - Cognitive Testing (Be Explicit and Systematic)
Tell the patient what you are about to do:
"I'd like to ask you a few questions to check your memory and concentration - they may seem simple, but they are a routine part of my assessment."
This reduces patient embarrassment and signals competence to your instructor.
Orientation
"Can you tell me today's date? What day of the week is it? Where are we right now? What is your full name?"
Attention and Concentration
"I'd like you to subtract 7 from 100, and keep subtracting 7 from each answer." (100... 93... 86... 79...)
- OR: "Can you spell the word WORLD backwards for me?" (D-L-R-O-W)
Memory
- Immediate: "I'm going to say three words - I want you to repeat them back to me: Apple, Table, Penny. Can you repeat those?"
- Short-term (5-10 min later): "Do you remember those three words I asked you earlier?"
- Long-term: "Can you tell me who the current Prime Minister/President is?" or ask them to recount their personal history coherently
Fund of Information
"Who is the current Prime Minister/President?"
"Can you name a major recent news event?"
Abstract Reasoning
"How are an apple and an orange similar?" (Expect: "They are both fruits")
"What does this proverb mean: 'A rolling stone gathers no moss'?"
Watch for concrete interpretation (a sign of impaired abstraction): "It means a stone that rolls won't have moss on it" - taken literally without conceptual understanding.
Calculations
"What is 7 times 8?" or simple serial arithmetic.
Harrison's Principles of Internal Medicine 22E, p. 3423
Step 6 - Insight and Judgment
Insight
"Do you think you have a mental health condition?"
"Do you think you need treatment?"
"What do you think is causing your symptoms?"
Judgment
"If you found a sealed, stamped envelope on the sidewalk, what would you do?"
- Better: use something from their own life - "What would you do if you felt the urge to [specific dangerous behavior they mentioned]?"
Kaplan and Sadock's Synopsis of Psychiatry, p. 61
Step 7 - Close the Interview
"Thank you for talking with me today. Is there anything else you'd like to share, or anything you'd like to ask me?"
This is important - it shows the instructor you respect the patient's autonomy and leave space for them to add something.
Step 8 - Present Your Findings to the Instructor
After the interview, present in an organized, domain-by-domain format. Use professional language:
Template for oral presentation:
"This is [Age]-year-old [Gender], who presented with [Chief complaint]. On mental status examination:
Appearance and Behavior: The patient appeared [stated age / older / younger], was [well/poorly] groomed, dressed [appropriately/inappropriately]. They were [cooperative/agitated/guarded].
Psychomotor activity: [Normal / slowed / agitated]. No abnormal involuntary movements noted.
Speech: [Rate, volume, tone] - e.g., normal rate and volume, coherent.
Mood: Patient described their mood as [quote the patient's own words, e.g., 'depressed'].
Affect: [Congruent/incongruent] with mood; [full range / restricted / blunted / flat / labile].
Thought content: [No suicidal/homicidal ideation / active SI with/without plan / presence of delusions/obsessions - specify type].
Thought process: [Linear and goal-directed / circumstantial / tangential / loose associations].
Perceptions: [No hallucinations / auditory hallucinations - describe / visual hallucinations].
Cognition: Alert and oriented to [time/place/person]. Attention [intact/impaired - serial 7s]. Memory [intact/impaired - 3/3 words recalled]. Abstract reasoning [intact/concrete]. Insight [full/partial/absent]. Judgment [good/impaired]."
Common Student Mistakes to Avoid
| Mistake | What to do instead |
|---|
| Reading questions off a sheet | Memorize your question sequence; it looks rehearsed and cold |
| Jumping straight to cognitive testing | Build rapport first; history-taking comes before formal testing |
| Asking "Are you hearing voices?" too abruptly | Normalize it: "Some people in your situation experience hearing things - has that happened to you?" |
| Forgetting suicidality | Always ask, every patient, every time |
| Calling flat affect "sad" | Flat is an objective finding; sad is subjective mood |
| Confusing mood (what patient says) and affect (what you observe) | Mood = their words; Affect = your observation |
| Skipping insight/judgment because they seem obvious | Always formally assess and document |
| Writing notes during emotional disclosures | Put the pen down; it disrupts rapport |
Quick Reference Card (Memorize This Order)
A - Appearance & Behavior
S - Speech
M - Mood (subjective)
A - Affect (objective)
T - Thought Content
T - Thought Process
P - Perception (hallucinations/illusions)
C - Cognition (orientation, memory, attention, abstraction)
I - Insight
J - Judgment
"AS MATT-P CIJ" - or use COASTMAP as mentioned in our previous session.
The most important thing your instructor wants to see is that you are clinically curious, empathic, and systematic - not that you are perfect. If you miss something, note it and go back. If the patient is distressed, acknowledge it before moving on. The MSE is a clinical skill that takes months of practice - each patient teaches you something different.
Sources:
- Kaplan and Sadock's Synopsis of Psychiatry, pp. 24-65
- Harrison's Principles of Internal Medicine 22E (2025), p. 3423