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pain started at lower part of eyelid then swelling started

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Based on the clinical photos and symptoms, this is most consistent with a Hordeolum (Stye) or Acute Chalazion of the left lower eyelid.

What's Happening

The left eye shows significant swelling, redness, and erythema of the lower eyelid — starting with pain at the lower eyelid margin and progressing to visible swelling. This is the classic presentation of a hordeolum (stye) or acute chalazion.
Here is the textbook reference image for comparison:
External hordeolum — redness and swelling of the lower eyelid

Most Likely Diagnoses

1. Hordeolum (Stye) — Most Likely

  • External hordeolum: Acute bacterial infection (usually Staphylococcus) of an eyelash follicle or adjacent gland (Zeis/Moll)
  • Internal hordeolum: Infection of a meibomian gland inside the tarsal plate
  • Presents with pain, eyelid edema, erythema, and sometimes a visible pustule at the lid margin
  • Can occasionally evolve into preseptal cellulitis if untreated

2. Acute Chalazion

  • Focal inflammation from a blocked meibomian or Zeis oil gland
  • May be painful in the acute phase; usually a palpable nodule
  • Can look identical to an internal hordeolum clinically

Red Flags — Rule Out Preseptal Cellulitis

Seek urgent care if any of the following develop:
  • Fever or chills
  • Difficulty moving the eye or double vision
  • Decreased vision
  • Pain with eye movement
  • Proptosis (eye bulging forward)
These would suggest spread beyond the eyelid and require systemic antibiotics or hospital care.

Treatment (from Wills Eye Manual)

StepAction
1st lineWarm compresses for ≥10 minutes, 4× daily, with gentle massage over the swelling
AntibioticTopical erythromycin or bacitracin ointment twice daily for 7–10 days
If worseningSee an ophthalmologist — may need incision & drainage, or systemic antibiotics if cellulitis develops
Persistent chalazionIntralesional steroid injection or incision & curettage after 3–4 weeks
Start warm compresses immediately — this is the most important first step and resolves most cases.

This is general medical information only. Please see an ophthalmologist or doctor for examination and proper diagnosis, especially given the degree of swelling visible in the photos.
Tintinalli's Emergency Medicine, p. 1581 | The Wills Eye Manual, pp. 381–383

can oral Amoxiclav and doxycycline be given for this condition

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Here's a clear, evidence-based answer:

Amoxiclav and Doxycycline for This Condition

For a Simple Hordeolum / Chalazion

For an uncomplicated hordeolum or chalazion, oral antibiotics are generally not the first line. The standard treatment is:
  • Warm compresses 4× daily
  • Topical antibiotic ointment (e.g., erythromycin, bacitracin, tobramycin)
Oral antibiotics are only added if the infection spreads and causes preseptal (periorbital) cellulitis.

If There IS Preseptal Cellulitis (infection spreading beyond the eyelid)

The textbooks give very specific guidance here:

Amoxicillin/Clavulanate (Amoxiclav) ✅ — YES, it is a first-line oral antibiotic

"The nontoxic adult patient and older child with mild preseptal cellulitis may be managed as outpatients with oral antibiotics (amoxicillin/clavulanic acid or a first-generation cephalosporin), hot packs, and close follow-up in 24 to 48 hours." — Tintinalli's Emergency Medicine, p. 1581
Wills Eye Manual specifically recommends:
Amoxicillin/clavulanate: 875/125 mg orally every 12 hours for adults for mild preseptal cellulitis.

Doxycycline 100 mg twice daily ✅ — YES, but only if MRSA is suspected

"Doxycycline: 100 mg p.o. b.i.d. (contraindicated in children, pregnant women, and nursing mothers)" — used specifically when MRSA exposure is suspected. — The Wills Eye Manual, p. 408
It is also noted in another context that doxycycline has value for its anti-inflammatory and antibacterial properties in chronic/recurrent chalazia (e.g., low-dose 20–50 mg daily), particularly in those with ocular rosacea.

Summary Table

DrugFor Simple Hordeolum/ChalazionIf Preseptal Cellulitis Develops
AmoxiclavNot routinely needed✅ First-line oral antibiotic
DoxycyclineLow-dose useful for recurrent/rosacea-related✅ When MRSA suspected; or as anti-inflammatory

Key Point for the Case in the Photos

Looking at the photos again, there is significant lower eyelid swelling with erythema — if this is extending beyond just the eyelid margin (i.e., periorbital soft tissue is involved), then Amoxiclav 875/125 mg twice daily is appropriate and textbook-supported. Doxycycline would be added or substituted if there is MRSA concern or penicillin allergy.
The patient should be reviewed in 24–48 hours to confirm improvement. If worsening (fever, proptosis, restricted eye movement), urgent escalation to IV antibiotics and hospital admission is required.
The Wills Eye Manual, pp. 407–408 | Tintinalli's Emergency Medicine, p. 1581 | Goldman-Cecil Medicine

Can Amoxiclav 625 can be given thrice instead of 1000mg bd

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Yes — Amoxiclav 625 mg (500/125 mg) three times daily (TDS) is a valid and recognised alternative to the 875/125 mg or 1000/125 mg twice-daily regimens. Here's the breakdown:

Amoxiclav 625 TDS vs 1000 BD — Are They Equivalent?

Total Daily Amoxicillin Dose Comparison

RegimenAmoxicillin/dayClavulanate/day
625 mg (500/125) TDS1500 mg375 mg
1000 mg (875/125) BD1750 mg250 mg
1000/62.5 mg BD2000 mg125 mg
The 625 TDS gives a slightly lower amoxicillin dose but more clavulanate spread across the day.

What the Textbooks Say

Rosen's Emergency Medicine lists amoxicillin-clavulanate for infections explicitly as:
"Amoxicillin/clavulanate 500 mg/125 mg by mouth TID — 10 days (875 mg/125 mg can be used)"
This directly confirms 625 TDS as an accepted regimen.
Goldman-Cecil Medicine also uses:
"Amoxicillin-clavulanate (three 500/125 mg tablets three times daily for patients ≥60 kg)"

Key Pharmacological Rationale

  • Amoxicillin is a time-dependent antibiotic — efficacy depends on the time its concentration stays above the MIC, not peak levels
  • Giving it three times daily actually maintains better sustained tissue levels throughout the day compared to twice-daily dosing
  • The BD formulations (875 or 1000 mg) use a modified-release preparation to compensate; the TDS 625 mg achieves similar or equivalent coverage by more frequent dosing

Clavulanate Consideration

One practical reason the BD regimens became popular is clavulanate GI side effects (nausea, diarrhoea). Clavulanate is the main cause of GI upset. With 625 TDS, the patient gets 375 mg/day clavulanate vs 250 mg/day with 875 BD — so GI side effects may be slightly more with TDS dosing. Taking it with food helps significantly.

Bottom Line

Yes, Amoxiclav 625 mg TDS is clinically acceptable for preseptal cellulitis or periorbital infection. It is explicitly listed in multiple major emergency medicine textbooks as a standard regimen. The choice between 625 TDS and 1000 BD is often guided by local availability, patient tolerance, and formulary — both are appropriate.
Rosen's Emergency Medicine | Goldman-Cecil Medicine | Tintinalli's Emergency Medicine
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