Teach me.Q. Pt ankle dislocation reduced in ED, need ortho surgery. You call registrar who should take consent for the procedure? 1. Ed reg 2. 3. Ortho reg – as competent Consultant – can but last option
who should take informed consent for surgery - the operating surgeon or referring doctor medical law
The person who performs the procedure (or someone who is competent to perform it) must take consent.
| Option | Correct? | Why |
|---|---|---|
| ED Registrar | ❌ No | They referred the patient - they do NOT know the surgical procedure, cannot answer surgical questions, and are not trained to perform the operation |
| Ortho Registrar | ✅ YES | Competent to perform the surgery, understands all aspects of the procedure, can answer all patient questions |
| Ortho Consultant | ✅ Can, but last resort | They are also competent, but the registrar is available and equally competent - no need to escalate |
Who performs the procedure?
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Ortho Registrar (doing the op) ← IDEAL
↓ (if unavailable)
Another competent ortho doctor
↓ (if unavailable)
Ortho Consultant
↓ (NEVER)
ED Doctor ← Legally and ethically invalid
I want answer on basis of amc guidelines
AMC Australian Medical Council informed consent guidelines who should obtain consent for surgery
AMC exam consent surgery registrar competent person Australian guidelines NHMRC
who should obtain informed consent for surgery competent to perform procedure registrar
Australia NHMRC "general guidelines for medical practitioners" informed consent "who obtains" OR "who takes" consent surgery 2004
Provide patients with information they need to make decisions about their care - including the nature of the procedure, material risks, benefits, and alternatives.
"While time constraints may cause a treating doctor to have a junior doctor explain the nature of the proposed operation - if a junior doctor fails to properly discharge the treating doctor's responsibility, the fault lies with the treating doctor."
"Disclosure of information and discussion is best performed by the surgeon who will be conducting the treatment."
| Option | AMC Verdict | Reasoning |
|---|---|---|
| ED Registrar | ❌ Cannot take consent | Not competent to perform the orthopaedic procedure - cannot explain surgical risks, technique, complications, or alternatives. Legally invalid. |
| Ortho Registrar | ✅ Correct answer | Competent to perform the surgery - can explain all material risks, alternatives, and expected outcomes. This is who should take consent. |
| Ortho Consultant | ✅ Can, but not first choice | Also competent, but the registrar performing the procedure is the most appropriate person. The consultant is a valid backup only. |
The person taking consent must be competent to perform the procedure OR have received specialist training in advising patients about that specific procedure.
According to amc guidelines teach it. MVA young pt chest pain, sob shock in stem. Pulse 125, breath decrease dullness. What’s next best step 1. Reassure 2. Ab 3. Needle thoracostomy - TP 4. Chest tube drain – HT and PT
AMC exam chest trauma dullness percussion haemothorax vs tension pneumothorax management guidelines Australia EMST ATLS
AMC MCQ chest trauma dullness percussion decreased breath sounds shock haemothorax chest tube intercostal catheter treatment
| Stem Clue | What it Tells You |
|---|---|
| MVA | High-energy blunt chest trauma |
| Chest pain + SOB | Pleural or pulmonary injury |
| Shock (pulse 125, hypotension implied) | Haemodynamic compromise - blood loss |
| Decreased breath sounds | Fluid or air filling pleural space |
| DULLNESS on percussion | ← This is the KEY finding = FLUID (blood) in the chest |
DULLNESS to percussion → FLUID (blood) = HAEMOTHORAX
HYPERRESONANCE → AIR = PNEUMOTHORAX / TENSION PNEUMOTHORAX
| Percussion Note | Diagnosis | Immediate Action |
|---|---|---|
| Hyperresonance | Tension Pneumothorax | Needle thoracostomy → then ICC |
| Hyperresonance | Simple Pneumothorax | ICC / observation |
| Dullness | Haemothorax | Large-bore ICC (chest tube) |
| Dullness | Haemopneumothorax | Large-bore ICC |
MVA / High-energy trauma
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Rib fractures → tear intercostal vessels / lung laceration
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Blood fills pleural space
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Lung compressed → ↓ breath sounds
Blood is dense → dullness on percussion
Blood loss → shock (tachycardia, hypotension)
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DIAGNOSIS = HAEMOTHORAX
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TREATMENT = Large-bore ICC (chest tube drain)
Teach according to amc guidelines. Biceps muscle rupture supraspinatus tear tx 1. Physio 2. Surgery 3. Injection something Associated with bicep tendon injury
AMC exam rotator cuff supraspinatus tear biceps tendon rupture management physiotherapy surgery guidelines Australia
"Rupture of the long head of the biceps is COMMON when a coexisting rotator cuff tear is present."
- Firestein & Kelley's Textbook of Rheumatology
Rotator cuff tear (supraspinatus)
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Humeral head no longer centred on glenoid
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Increased mechanical load on long head of biceps tendon
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Bicipital tendinitis → eventual rupture
"Reassurance that pain and bruising will resolve is sufficient. Power improves over several months and surgery (biceps tenodesis) is not needed for function, although it may help the cosmetic appearance."
Rotator Cuff (Supraspinatus) Tear
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Is it symptomatic?
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No Yes
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Physio/ Try conservative
observe (3 months minimum)
/ \
Improves Fails
↓ ↓
Physio Surgery
ongoing
"90% of patients with rotator cuff tears responded to conservative measures such as rest, analgesics, anti-inflammatory agents, and physiotherapy."
"Steroid and local anaesthetic injections are used when the patient has significant pain that prohibits rehabilitation. Injections may be repeated once every 3 months if needed; injection into the cuff tendon is to be avoided."
"Asymptomatic full-thickness rotator cuff tears should be treated nonoperatively. The primary indication for surgical intervention is significant pain."
| Indication | Action |
|---|---|
| Young, active patient + acute traumatic full-thickness tear | Early surgery |
| Failed 3 months of conservative therapy | Surgery |
| Massive tear with functional loss | Surgery |
| Cosmetic concern from Popeye sign (young/active) | Biceps tenodesis |
| Older, low-demand patient with LHB rupture | Conservative only |
| Condition | First-line Tx | Add injection if... | Surgery if... |
|---|---|---|---|
| Supraspinatus tear (chronic/degenerative) | Physio | Pain blocks rehab | Fails 3 months conservative |
| Supraspinatus tear (acute/traumatic, young) | Early surgery | - | Immediately |
| LHB rupture (Popeye sign, older pt) | Reassurance + Physio | - | Rarely - cosmesis only |
| LHB rupture (young, active pt) | Physio | - | Biceps tenodesis if functional loss |